Thinking About Some Unfairness in the Ruins of Gianthold (Heroic)

I have recently been taking Erdrique (Level 18 Rogue) through the Ruins of Gianthold (Heroic) and the quests located out there.  As I was making my way through the Foundation of Discord with Okhamel, a few random thoughts occurred to me.  These thoughts centered on some things that I consider to be “unfair” or perhaps unbalanced would be a better adjective.  To help explain some of this let me quickly describe how the heroic slayer area for the Ruins of Gianthold is divided.  The area is split between three powerful and distinct camps.  These include the Stormfist Camp, Stormheart camp, and Stormeye Camp.  The leader for the Stormfist camp is a stone giant named Jorgundal, the leader of the Stormheat camp is a fire giant named Blaze, and the leader of the Stormeye Camp is a cloud giant named Nimbus.  Now these three camps are currently undergoing some in fighting between themselves and within their own camps in order to get the favor of the Stormreaver.  When you explore the Gianthold map, you will learn that each area has three distinct quests, one flagging quest and two side quests exist for each camp.  The flagging quests being needed to get into Gianthold Tor and into the Stormreaver Raid.

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Erdrique making his way through the Gianthold.

Now each camp is composed of different races/organizations.  There is where I realized the first part of the “unfairness.”  There are two camps that have contributions from three organizations while the last camp only has two races/organizations.  Taking a look at the Stormfist camp we see that the camp is composed of the Windlasher gnolls, the Wyrm Cult orcs, and two tribes of hobgoblins (Cloven Jaw and Arzag-Khor, which I’m going to count as one entity).  A look at the Stormheart camp shows that the Runetusk ogres, Blackheart trolls, and Forsworn minotaurs.  However, the last camp, the Stormeye only have two active organizations in their mists, the Zakya cultists (including the rakshasa and jariliths) and the Concords (platinum, gold, silver, and copper).  So to me the first point of “unfairness” here is that the various camps spread throughout the Gianthold don’t access to the same amount of resources.  In this sense the Stormeye Camp seems to be at a large disadvantage here.

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Erdrique and Okhamel taking care of the Concord in Foundation of Discord in Gianthold.

The second “unfair” point I noticed had to do with the side quests and the monsters that are in these quests.  As you explore the various camps you will come across six different side quests which are essentially lairs.  In the Stormfist area you come across A Cabal for One which is the Hobgoblin Lair and the quest Feast or Famine which is the Orc Lair.  However, there is another race here that doesn’t seem to have its own lair.  Where is the lair for the Windlasher gnolls?  Moving onto the the Stormheart area, we have a Trial by Fire in the troll lair and a Maze of Madness in the Minotaur Lair.  However, the Runetusk ogres don’t appear to have an established lair of their own.  Luckily, in the Stormeye area both the Zakya and Concords have their own lair.

This makes me wonder why we see this discrepancy.  How come the Stormeye camp is only composed of two groups when the other camps have at least three races/organizations?  Could it be that the groups that make up the Stormeye camp are just that much more powerful than those in the other groups.  The raksashas and jariliths are outsiders and quite potent combantants while the Concord organization is known to be involved in a lot of sketchy and illegal activities and to be extremely powerful.  Perhaps Nimbus feels his camp of Zakya and Concords can easily stand up against the monstrous races of the other camps.  One would also think that the Concords could easily provide plenty of resources if needed.  The more interesting question is why doesn’t the Windlasher gnolls and Runetusk ogres have any established lairs or bases of operations in the Gianthold.  The Windlashers are quite prevalent in the Sands of Menectharun and in the Vale of Twilight while the Runetusk ogres are quite well entrained out in the Restless Isles.  Could it be that these bases of operation sufficient enough to maintain a strong presence in Gianthold?  I would think that the gnolls and ogres would want to set up another base of operation In Gianthold.  Perhaps they haven’t had a chance to locate a good place for a new lair and/or the other races/organizations already had a presence here before the Windlasher gnolls andRunetusks ogres were recruited out to Gianthold.

In any case, I thought that this was curious.  Perhaps we will see a few new quests in Gianthold that focus on these two races and maybe even see a new organization join the Stormeye camp.  One just never knows!! 🙂

Thanks for reading everybody and happy hunting out in Gianthold!!


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